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Taxonomic Swap 13601 (הועלה ב 2015-12-26)

HEADS UP: this swap has been partially reverted to try and stay aligned with Pelham (see comments below). It can't be fully reverted because it subsumed a superfamily into a family, and we can't really separate out records that *were* associated with the superfamily post-swap. So, please leave Hesperoidea in its active state, even though this swap was committed.

Also, please, PLEASE check http://www.inaturalist.org/pages/curator+guide#policies before committing massive changes like this, or at least call in some other curators to get a couple more opinions.

Several additional recent papers have supported Hesperiidae being embedded within Papilionoidea (thus rendering Hesperioidea obsolete), including:
http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/279/1731/1093
http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/281/1788/20140970
http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/277/1695/2839.short
http://bmcevolbiol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2148-9-280

This taxonomy has been adopted by BugGuide but not yet Pelham's US/Canada butterfly catalogue (I emailed about it but have not heard back yet).

Order Lepidoptera Linnaeus, 1758. In:... (ציטוט)
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נוסף על־ידי nlblock בתאריך דצמבר 24, 2015 11:04 אחה"צ | אושר על ידי nlblock בתאריך דצמבר 26, 2015
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interesting - @kueda did you know about this?

פורסם על-ידי loarie לפני יותר מ 8 שנים

Ugh, I didn't know, but this violates our policy of following Pelham. @nlblock, please read http://www.inaturalist.org/pages/curator+guide#policies and abide by the policies. If you cannot, we will revoke your curator privileges.

פורסם על-ידי kueda לפני יותר מ 8 שנים

I sincerely apologize! This followed someone else moving Hesperiidae into Papilionoidea, leaving Hesperioidea stranded with nothing underneath it. I thought it made sense to make this swap because of that. I should have just noted that the move of Hesperiidae didn't follow the Pelham policy and left it at that. Sorry for mucking things up.

פורסם על-ידי nlblock לפני יותר מ 8 שנים

If you notice something like that switch in the future, please just let us know about it. We don't police taxonomic changes as aggressively as we should, but at least we can talk about these issues if we know about them.

פורסם על-ידי kueda לפני יותר מ 8 שנים

Will do. Should I move things back to match Pelham?

פורסם על-ידי nlblock לפני יותר מ 8 שנים

I apologize again for inadvertently being a pain in the ass. It's the last thing I want to be on iNat (particularly because I think the butterfly taxonomy policy is excellent!). I feel really guilty about this.

פורסם על-ידי nlblock לפני יותר מ 8 שנים

I guess we can move Hesperiidae back under Hesperoidea without any damage. Any opinion, Scott?

פורסם על-ידי kueda לפני יותר מ 8 שנים

I don't have an opinion, this is a fairly painless one to toggle back and forth. I don't have strong feelings either way

פורסם על-ידי loarie לפני יותר מ 8 שנים

I got a complaint by someone with a 'must be in Papilionoidea' rule about skippers mixed in, and looks like Pelham still treats Hesperoidea as its own superfamily so I finally got around to reverting this. Hope thats cool with everyone

פורסם על-ידי loarie לפני יותר מ 8 שנים

hmm - and someone re-reverted it? What happened here?

פורסם על-ידי loarie לפני יותר מ 8 שנים

Sorry, changed the is_active status on Hesperoidea because I thought this had been committed and I forgot about this discussion. Adding some text to the description to make sure I don't do that again...

פורסם על-ידי kueda לפני יותר מ 8 שנים

@hugoalvarezg I saw you moved Hesperidae from Hesperoidea to Papilionoidea - see above - we're still going with the treatment of Hesperidae in Hesperoidea at the moment so I moved it back

פורסם על-ידי loarie לפני יותר מ 8 שנים

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