Taxonomic Swap 74768 (הועלה ב 2024-04-03)

Draft - do not implement. Please note move children is intentionally not selected. Members of Sitticus were moved to multiple different genera including Attulus, Tomis, Mexigonus, Heliophanus, Chinophrys, Jollas etc, so basically, all species need to be moved manually 1 at a time before genus swap is implemented

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נוסף על־ידי cmcheatle בתאריך אפריל 12, 2020 12:13 אחה"צ | אושר על ידי sjl197 בתאריך אפריל 3, 2024
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Wooboy! That's a lot of work. @wmaddisn and @mhedin Congratulations on getting published in a timely manner during a tumultuous time! If you guys need another curator for this quite large swapping, I volunteer. If not, then good luck and again, congratulations on getting such a massive paper published. Looking forward to reading it all and seeing my Sitticus concolor change to Attinella concolor.

פורסם על-ידי salticidude לפני בערך 4 שנים

I'll defer to @wmaddisn, but I can't imagine that he'd mind if you wanted to curate the swap. thanks for volunteering!!

פורסם על-ידי mhedin לפני בערך 4 שנים

Woah that's pretty crazy!

פורסם על-ידי blazeclaw לפני בערך 4 שנים

I'm the only one who can do it, no volunteering involved. I don't think there is any reason not to implement it, but we've had significant pushback on what you would think are non controversial changes before so just trying to be proactive in seeing if there are concerns.

פורסם על-ידי cmcheatle לפני בערך 4 שנים

Thanks so much for doing the changes! I haven't checked, but if there are Sitticus records from Mexico or south, then they almost certainly NOT Attulus, but Attinella, Tomis, or Jollas.

פורסם על-ידי wmaddisn לפני בערך 4 שנים

So, looking at the map, I've corrected a couple, but I must stay, "Sitticus fasciger" is an invasive species in two respects. It is one in real life, as it was introduced from the Old World to North America. And now, it's one bioinformatically. Quite a few specimens from Mexico and south have been identified as it, and probably none of them is Attulus fasciger, not even close. Most are probably Mexigonus. This mistake is probably propagating by iNaturalist being the source of people's identifications.... I guess people like me who know are supposed to be the stopgap to viral misidentification. Perhaps after the swap is made, I can scan the "Attulus".

פורסם על-ידי wmaddisn לפני בערך 4 שנים
פורסם על-ידי cmcheatle לפני בערך 4 שנים

@wmaddisn - yes ' I guess people like me who know are supposed to be the stopgap to viral misidentification' really this is the best way especially in cases where the misidentifications are of a genus/species that is still found in that place.

פורסם על-ידי cmcheatle לפני בערך 4 שנים

The only one I can see that isn't in that list is (Sitticus) Attinella concolor.

And that is crazy that a Heliophanus was hiding in Sitticus for so long!

פורסם על-ידי salticidude לפני בערך 4 שנים

Its there : https://www.inaturalist.org/taxon_changes/75085
I just missed filling in the change group dropdown

פורסם על-ידי cmcheatle לפני בערך 4 שנים

Awe, okay, I see it now.

פורסם על-ידי salticidude לפני בערך 4 שנים

Wow! Looking forward to seeing the outcome!

פורסם על-ידי tigerbb לפני בערך 4 שנים

OK, I have activated the change this morning. Now the equally big task of making sure the outcome matches what it should be. Already I've found 3 species that were unaccounted for in the draft changes. In the end rather than applying genus level changes, I'm thinking it will be better to simply inactivate the empty genera.

פורסם על-ידי cmcheatle לפני בערך 4 שנים

It is sad that this has got no love for two whole months! bump

פורסם על-ידי calebcam לפני כמעט 4 שנים

@calebcam It is actually done. It just needed to be done 1 at a time if you read the thread, and this request to do a bulk one never got deleted

פורסם על-ידי cmcheatle לפני כמעט 4 שנים

Oh, okay.

פורסם על-ידי calebcam לפני כמעט 4 שנים

It was done within a day or two of this flag, and involved several dozen individual changes. Just do not want to delete the discussion history here.

פורסם על-ידי cmcheatle לפני כמעט 4 שנים

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